obama, not with the vice president, not with any secretary, not with anybody else, and with mrs. obama, so, jeff, one, what do you make of it? will the chattering class here in washington think this is a kind of mini-endorsement of hillary for 2016 and how unhappy will joe biden be at 7 o'clock when "60 minutes" goes on the air. >> he's definitely going to be following this and he was probably in the wings on friday when the interview was done, listening in. but, look, i'm not sure it is any more than just, this is good for the president, her approval rating is high and why not sit down in the forum, the "60 minutes" forum has been friendly to him in the first term and it is not an endorsement per se but it looks like that. we don't know if she'll run for president in 2016 and she's leaving her options open and within thing we saw on the hill, if she decides to run for president, her approval rating is going to go, back to how it was before. i mean, she's going to come down to earth here on things, but, if she runs for president, vice president joe biden will obviously not. there